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beyond the realm of man

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thoroughly tested every last coaster I

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happy days are here again higher side

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shatters how the hell are you doing what

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greg carl wood and as you know we've

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long time and i don't think you can have

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a full diagram of the planetary power

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pyramid of puppet masters without

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leaving a space for this non-human

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presence and whether you're looking at

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the rituals of the skull and bone to the

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Ordo Templi Orientis or the Bohemian

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seems a little more real than what's

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going on in Sunday Mass and we've been

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talking about this proverbial deal with

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the devil the Faustian pacts this let me

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have a little bit of your power and I'll

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serve you idea that the elite might be

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playing with and I'm becoming fairly

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convinced that this is a vague

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description of the situation and when we

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get into why some multi-dimensional

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extraterrestrial beings would even

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bother with our global elite to me the

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only purpose that serves is secrecy and

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middle management and when you examine

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abductions seem to be about in the

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messages people leave these encounters

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merge our genetics with theirs whether

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to unlock some unique human

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counterculture and the Hollywood

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starting to lift well lucky for us in

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this dense complex material today we

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have the champion of conspiratorial

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clarification Linda Moulton Howe first

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we are gonna hear from September's Money

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bomb winner real quick all you know by

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now I take half of the donations in a

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given month and gift them back to a

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random listener and this past month Nate

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took it home it was 297 bucks

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here's a quick check in with him and

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details of Linda's research into the et

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phenomenon and the larger agenda on the

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Gregg thank you so much for the money

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bomb you're awesome I'm gonna throw a

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dollar at free Barrett Brown org that's

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the courage foundation and y'all should

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check that out man I love your show I

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just finished the a 432 frequency

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episode it's mind blowing I also really

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Firebird when I was a kid so thanks for

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putting a name on that and in the future

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Central and South America current events

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Americas what's our agenda there why do

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we get away with so much terrorism when

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terrorism yeah so uh

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shed a light on that or really

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the market to little Sparky does pricked

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information about the secret

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manipulation and the wine assist

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aficionados he can find

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woman back care normally thought we knew

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for certain so we can see the world with

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a brand new said about you listening to

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all right people we know the world is

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full of weirdness just beyond the

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humdrum nine-to-five they put before us

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and today's guest has been hot on the

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trail of nearly all of it animal

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mutilations strange booms

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genetic experimentation and everything

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else that makes up the mysterious

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magnitude of alternative information

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that she chronicles at earth files.com

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one of the most well respected and

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journalistic sites dig into these depths

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of the rabbit hole gearing up for her

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presentation to the secret space program

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conference in Austin Texas you know her

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you love her Linda Moulton Howe welcome

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to THC well thank you very much and I am

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near Austin at the end of October I

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secret space program and there has been

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a secret space program for decades it's

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time that the taxpayers knew yes agreed

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cheers to that Linda and I am so happy

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to finally have you on you've definitely

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palatable and I've also loved hearing

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you at contact in the desert the last

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few times there are so many things I'd

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like to talk to you about and things

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you're on a new thread every week so to

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little bit about what's got your

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attention at the moment well first I

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wish that everybody working in media

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would drop the word fringe drop the word

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paranormal drop the word supernatural

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live on and that this is the discovery

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its science and environment this is a

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discovery that there is an alien

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presence on earth and it has been here

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whistleblowers who have talked to me

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and the more we would move away as

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people who are

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journalist and in the media and doing

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web if we can move away and change all

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of the words that people now look at

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what we're going to talk about as this

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is reality these are facts this is not

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something on the fringe I think it would

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help the audience's to listen and not

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think that they were listening to

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something that might not be true and was

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on the margin everything that I am

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reporting I'm trying to bring facts to

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bear I'm trying to bring first-hand

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eyewitnesses to bear and that to me

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separates now from what once upon a time

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the government of the United States with

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England they got away with policies of

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denial and lies because they could

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anything that the government told them

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to do and say there is no UFO phenomena

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we are alone in the universe here here

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these thousands of people reporting some

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all delusional and that's so important

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counterintelligence that got us through

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assignment and said you go out and you

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the planet who is going to believe that

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there is a two-mile triangle over

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Texas all of this is the legacy from

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policies of denial that were set in

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myself in the last decade where the the

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the governments to put out all of these

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them stick because the number of people

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who have been experiencing high

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strangeness that has been rising and

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when you are looking at it all from

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where I sit every day and the number

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hundreds of emails are coming to me

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literally every day thousands in a month

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and this is non-stop these are not

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coming from people who are wild-eyed

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these are coming from people who sign

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their emails as professors in

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universities working for government

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airline pilots and they are telling

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really legitimate stories but here is

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professionals but they know that they

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could still lose their jobs if their

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public with their names and identity

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right so tragically and sadly I still

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have to say I promise I will keep your

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name your up your title your location

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anonymous but what is important is to

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report what you know are facts so I try

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on a regular basis because the

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information is so important and here is

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what is very very I think strong for

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requesting anonymity or they're willing

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to go on the record

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their name I must get a hundred more

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emails for every story of people saying

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increased number of stories a good

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with George Noory right and each

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half-hour is it moves from the first

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are current and important to report and

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Illinois who contacted me and we did an

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interview recorded about her having her

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hands the back of the neck of a woman

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who had come to I it's a prestigious

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around the 2005 to 6 period which shows

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you she waited until 2015 to finally get

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ancient aliens and she had heard me on

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cuss to Coast AM and she had seen

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she said in her email I have been living

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since 2005 to 2006 and I decided I

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really wanted to see if somebody could

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help me understand

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she reached out and we did this

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recording and I put it on coast to coast

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I have since let's see it's been now

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from I got off the air at 3 a.m. on

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Friday and you and I are talking on

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mm-hm and in the 24 hours after the

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broadcast I have received at least 115

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emails and they are coming it's a

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constant stream from people who are

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telling me their own experiences was

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seeing some kind of a gray looking body

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floating up out of a human lots of it in

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massage Reiki various states of what we

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would call relaxation but it's I never

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expected that there would be this much

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and yesterday in the afternoon of Friday

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I did an hour special with Whitley

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Strieber for his unknown country

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dreamland and to my astonishment Whitley

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for the very first time ever described

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that he has had the same experience

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understands it has had people who have

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communicated but he had never recorded

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it until I did the cus broadcast and

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then we decided we would do one with him

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yesterday so now we have expanded the

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territory in the feedback that is coming

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what does it mean what in the world does

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it mean that perhaps hundreds thousands

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of people have been sitting on a

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phenomena that they have not shared

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about being massage therapist and seeing

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what looks like a black almond shaped

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black eyed shaped like almonds large

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head gray slit mouth thin neck gray body

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and not human come up out of a body a

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human body that is being massaged what

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does it mean well it isn't just right

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now as I opened up in my broadcast both

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for cousin with dreamland in the 1980's

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after I had produced a strange harvest

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the documentary about animal mutilations

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around the world and had law enforcement

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telling me people forget this as well

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it was law enforcement telling me the

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director of special projects at the CBS

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station in Denver I had won all kinds of

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awards had a National Emmy nomination

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where I went back to New York City

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because the documentaries that I was

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doing on the environment and science and

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medicine were having impacts and that's

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part of what national Emmys for

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documentaries are related to so I had

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done a strange harvest on the animal

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mutilations and that seemed to open up a

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door like it's happening today at more

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levels you know 'then up a door for

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people who had never talked even to

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their families to come out come to me

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starting to report all kinds of high

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strangeness that went beyond what i had

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focused on animal mutilations and this

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was about two or three years after that

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broadcast and it's memorable because i

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had never heard anything like it before

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then and ties to today i got a call from

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a massage therapist in boulder colorado

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now in boulder colorado in the 1980s

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massage therapy was a huge part of the

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community when you think about East

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Coast cities they have always put

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massage having to do with some form of

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prostitution mm-hmm it's never been fair

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historically Colorado was completely the

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opposite so many people use massage

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therapists for massage therapy in the

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state of Colorado say it was not unusual

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to get a phone call from somebody in

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Boulder especially saying Linda I saw

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you on television I've just had

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something that is freaked me out I don't

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understand it I've seen you on

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television I figured that I could call

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you and you might be able to explain to

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me what has just happened and here

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briefly

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she was massaging it was a male client

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she had her hands on his chest and then

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suddenly she can't move her hands she

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can't move her body she doesn't know

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what is happening

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the man is not saying anything or doing

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anything but coming up out of the man's

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body translucent just like the Chicago

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case recently translucent she can see

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her hands through this grey body that is

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rising up and she cannot move she cannot

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yell she can't do anything she's frozen

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but whatever this phenomena is it was

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able to keep rising past her hands her

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arms up into the air and it seemed to

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fade out and she described the black eye

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shaped almond slanted the same that I

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just described from the Chicago massage

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therapist Wow she said when it faded out

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in the sky in the air in the room she

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suddenly everything her hands could move

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her arms could move she could talk and

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she said Linda I was so scared I didn't

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even want to say to the client on the

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masseuse on the massage table what just

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happened right yeah think about that

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she's had this experience she doesn't

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even talk with the man who has had no

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reaction doesn't say anything doesn't

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his eyes are still closed he's unaware

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but she calls and tells me that it was

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very shortly thereafter that I got a

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call from a male massage therapist in

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Memphis Tenn

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see and it was the same story exactly so

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now I had those two cases as a

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background for the 1980s I never had

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received any other reports until the

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woman in Chicago I put it on the air in

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two broadcasts and I now have over 100

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emails coming from people all over the

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country and some in Canada as well

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saying that they've had a similar

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experience either watching somebody in a

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massage or it's been some meditative or

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massage experience and everybody is

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saying the same thing including Whitley

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Strieber who has had the experience

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himself he said Linda what do you think

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this means right and I turned it around

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to him and I said Whitley of all of us

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you are the one person that I know who

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has had the longest closest we'll call

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it interactive experiences with the

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non-human intelligence at least one type

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the greys and what do you think is

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happening and he said very

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straightforwardly and honestly I think

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that there is a physics a technology

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that the greys are able to project some

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now this is the question are they

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projecting a life force from themselves

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into humans in order to learn what it is

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like to be human and that their gray

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physical body is is it in animate

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someplace or are they able to split into

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two which has been what several people

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in the abduction syndrome over decades

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have suggested that we are dealing with

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an intelligence that can be

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let's say that it's a Zeta Reticuli 1 &

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2 or in a completely different galaxy it

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literally has been able to make drones

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what we would call androids that can

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come into other galaxies do physical

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exploration match the biology of

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whatever these exploratory androids are

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with the planet that they are assigned

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to explore and that that's splitting in

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two

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Jim sparks has talked about this quite

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in detail that he was shown that they

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can they can project a percentage of

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whatever their consciousness is into

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human bodies and that the difference is

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that Jim sparks has never described

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seeing the pale translucent version of a

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gray rising up out of somebody in

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massage but the physics of this might be

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somewhat similar between the Jim sparks

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experience talking about a technology

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that doesn't even have to leave its home

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planet and can send out at androids that

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can have a percentage of consciousness

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that couldn't enter humans to learn so

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there's the common denominator enter

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humans to learn Wow I remember another

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very important case and will lead in

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from all of this will lead into this

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whole question that I'm going to be

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talking about in the Bastrop Convention

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Center November 1st of 2015 and that has

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to do my subject is self-activating

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software and technology that is alien

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hmm that's whole big subject

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now relates to what I'm beginning to

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enter into it's this question of what

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kind of physics are we dealing with and

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how would it work well there was a case

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it was outside of Manhattan in

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and the man was a artist they started

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when he was in his probably his teenage

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years he would be waked up at night and

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what I'm beginning to unfold has been

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reported thousands of times by men

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around the world and he would see a

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version of a female that was not human

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but was female floating over his bed on

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the bed there would be sexual

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intercourse and it would happen on a

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frequent basis and he began to

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understand this was not a human female

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and that the whole point was his

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ejaculation of sperm and that he knew

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that she was a holographic projection

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over a technology that was there to

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gather sperm and other men have

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described this but his it's the most

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detail and it leads to I've always kept

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this case as remember this remember this

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with david huggins in Hoboken New Jersey

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because someday this might what I'm

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gonna now share might be very very

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important and understanding why the

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nonhumans are here how they interact

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male and female and what it is that he's

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most valuable to them so now going

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beyond the collection of sperm through

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something that seems to be like a

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holographic projection one night after

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this had been going on for several years

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a praying mantis and the praying mantis

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type shows up in various whether it's

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between well in front of human females

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or human males or even human children

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seven seven to eight foot tall looks

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just lie

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on earth what would be like a praying

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mantis

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green large scares people to death

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for a like a fraction of a second to a

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second or two and then however the

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praying mantis manages this I don't know

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a human who has had this experience with

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the praying mantises that have not had

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this next part happen there the human is

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flooded with peace relaxation from their

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fear telepathic communication from this

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huge gigantic insect looking being and

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every man woman and teenager that I've

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ever talked to who has encountered one

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of these things says almost exactly the

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same words have no fear I'm not here to

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hurt you

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and they feel a flood of huge sadness

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coming from this and they get a

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telepathic sometimes an image sometimes

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a telepathic download and this is the

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part that's impossible for the human to

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comprehend but this is what is almost

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universal in the interaction with these

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preying mantises they are given images

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of our solar system they recognize our

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solar system and the being communicates

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that it's job has been to seed life in

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planets earth being one of many and that

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the praying mantis in front of the human

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is as old as our solar system now our

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solar system is supposed to be 4.6

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billion years old the idea that the

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could be a continuous organic life-form

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that could sustain itself mentally

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physically spiritually any other way for

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4.6 billion years it is outside of any

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frame of understanding that humans could

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ever have right right now that doesn't

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mean that human knowledge is all there

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is it just means that when everybody

551
00:28:51,379 --> 00:28:48,460
reaches that point that a seven to eight

552
00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:51,389
foot tall praying mantis insect is

553
00:28:57,810 --> 00:28:54,580
communicating that it is a cedar of life

554
00:29:00,570 --> 00:28:57,820
in solar systems and that it is as old

555
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:00,580
as our solar system where it has seeded

556
00:29:08,669 --> 00:29:04,720
life on other planets and earth that

557
00:29:13,589 --> 00:29:08,679
everybody goes tilt and I understand why

558
00:29:15,509 --> 00:29:13,599
but with that as sort of background I'm

559
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:15,519
now going to tell you what happened with

560
00:29:19,979 --> 00:29:17,769
David Huggins in Hoboken New Jersey

561
00:29:23,249 --> 00:29:19,989
across the river from New York

562
00:29:26,339 --> 00:29:23,259
after having years of knowing that he

563
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:26,349
was sperm was being collected from him

564
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:29,289
and now one of these tall praying

565
00:29:36,259 --> 00:29:33,129
mantises and with a detail that david

566
00:29:40,589 --> 00:29:36,269
huggins because he was a painter drew

567
00:29:44,669 --> 00:29:40,599
painted in oil painting that I have used

568
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:44,679
in slides that the we'll call it the

569
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,289
lower half think of a praying mantises

570
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:50,080
how the face comes down to a narrow

571
00:29:57,149 --> 00:29:54,970
point in his and surprisingly enough

572
00:29:59,070 --> 00:29:57,159
I've learned over time other people have

573
00:30:01,259 --> 00:29:59,080
seen this but they were afraid to say it

574
00:30:02,869 --> 00:30:01,269
because they were already describing

575
00:30:07,379 --> 00:30:02,879
something so strange

576
00:30:11,339 --> 00:30:07,389
he drew or painted that in the lower

577
00:30:17,369 --> 00:30:11,349
part of the praying mantises head it

578
00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:17,379
glowed light that blowing of light in

579
00:30:24,570 --> 00:30:22,409
the praying mantises face when you

580
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:24,580
listen to other people who have

581
00:30:28,590 --> 00:30:26,530
encountered the praying mantises

582
00:30:32,670 --> 00:30:28,600
and because I have had that background

583
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:32,680
with david huggins I can ask people was

584
00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:35,290
there anything else unusual about the

585
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:38,470
praying mantises face I'd say six out of

586
00:30:45,630 --> 00:30:41,890
ten people say oh god it even glowed

587
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:45,640
light I've heard right okay so these are

588
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:47,890
the things that the more cases you have

589
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:51,370
and you begin to learn well ask you

590
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:54,190
don't want to lead you don't want to say

591
00:30:59,940 --> 00:30:56,730
did you see light right that's wrong

592
00:31:02,240 --> 00:30:59,950
every reporter and investigator should

593
00:31:05,010 --> 00:31:02,250
never ever lead but you can ask

594
00:31:07,710 --> 00:31:05,020
legitimately that question was there

595
00:31:09,630 --> 00:31:07,720
anything else unusual about the head or

596
00:31:13,410 --> 00:31:09,640
the face that's a legitimate question

597
00:31:17,820 --> 00:31:13,420
when you hear six out of ten people say

598
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:17,830
oh my god it was glowing light then you

599
00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:21,670
know that david huggins oil painting

600
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:24,700
going back he drew that or painted that

601
00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:28,720
in the early 1970s Wow you have to take

602
00:31:36,570 --> 00:31:31,150
it seriously and here's now what he said

603
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:36,580
next happened the praying mantis this is

604
00:31:43,890 --> 00:31:40,210
all telepathic puts images and thoughts

605
00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:43,900
into david huggins who is standing stark

606
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:47,980
naked in the he had a it was a bed it

607
00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:50,170
was like a big living room with a bed at

608
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:52,270
one end so he didn't have like an

609
00:31:58,650 --> 00:31:55,090
apartment or a house he had like a loft

610
00:32:04,320 --> 00:31:58,660
type place so he has gotten out of bed

611
00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:04,330
and the feet now there is a female that

612
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:09,190
looks exactly like all of these females

613
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:13,360
that have a female image that has come

614
00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:16,170
and collected sperm now there is one

615
00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:21,670
standing next to him he's standing she's

616
00:32:27,330 --> 00:32:24,550
standing this is now not like the

617
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:27,340
holographic drama and the praying mantis

618
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:30,730
is in front of both of them and he gets

619
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:37,030
the download essentially that now david

620
00:32:45,890 --> 00:32:40,650
huggins loves this

621
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:45,900
form this this white skinned black eyed

622
00:32:52,409 --> 00:32:49,600
female form that he associates with all

623
00:32:56,010 --> 00:32:52,419
this collection of sperm and the praying

624
00:32:58,980 --> 00:32:56,020
mantises said saying and I want you to

625
00:33:03,620 --> 00:32:58,990
now understand that I the praying mantis

626
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:03,630
I'm going to place her who you now love

627
00:33:13,409 --> 00:33:08,650
inside of you so she can learn now

628
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:13,419
here's the part david huggins sees he

629
00:33:16,409 --> 00:33:15,760
watches this with his human eyes and

630
00:33:22,909 --> 00:33:16,419
retina

631
00:33:27,299 --> 00:33:22,919
he's totally conscious the female form

632
00:33:32,130 --> 00:33:27,309
dissolves transforms whatever verb into

633
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:32,140
a ball of light it is gold and that ball

634
00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:35,710
of light comes into his chest abdomen

635
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:38,980
area enters him he's completely

636
00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:42,610
conscious he feels a warmth entering him

637
00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:46,140
and he said and then the praying mantis

638
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:50,230
fades away here was this huge thing in

639
00:33:56,669 --> 00:33:53,890
his room and it fades away how did they

640
00:33:59,970 --> 00:33:56,679
do this how does the technology for the

641
00:34:02,190 --> 00:33:59,980
fading in fading out popping in popping

642
00:34:04,049 --> 00:34:02,200
out that's a whole other issue of this

643
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:04,059
self activating software that I'm going

644
00:34:09,889 --> 00:34:06,850
to be talking about at the Austin

645
00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:09,899
conference the secret space conference

646
00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:15,700
but David Huggins who called me only a

647
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:17,830
couple years ago just as an update I

648
00:34:23,070 --> 00:34:18,730
asked him

649
00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:23,080
is she still in you and he said no she

650
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:25,270
was there and he knew she was there for

651
00:34:32,339 --> 00:34:28,960
two or three years and it gave him oddly

652
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:32,349
comfort he said he was never afraid of

653
00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:36,810
it but the collection of the sperm

654
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:40,750
stopped 100% there was no more of that

655
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:44,409
she's now living inside of him looking

656
00:34:51,419 --> 00:34:47,770
through his eyes and mind and who knows

657
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:51,429
I'm filling in here on the assumption

658
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:53,410
that all of our senses

659
00:35:05,340 --> 00:34:58,650
what we are as humans can somehow be

660
00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:05,350
entered and that whatever form you want

661
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:10,840
to say that light is it is a it is a

662
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:16,260
consciousness using human consciousness

663
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:21,070
to learn and can leave now

664
00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:24,160
Whitley used almost the same words

665
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:27,670
yesterday in the very he said it's the

666
00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:30,160
first time he had ever described his own

667
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:33,670
experience with this and he said his

668
00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:39,970
residue was and is that these beings the

669
00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:44,260
gray ones do have this ability in a form

670
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,790
that he doesn't understand

671
00:35:49,740 --> 00:35:47,680
Whitley doesn't pretend to understand

672
00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:49,750
anything about the physics of this I

673
00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:53,740
neither do i but you have to take the

674
00:35:59,070 --> 00:35:56,830
human abduction syndrome and say in a

675
00:36:02,490 --> 00:35:59,080
person let's say me I've interviewed

676
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:02,500
personally in depth about 1,500 people

677
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:04,450
over the last 35 years

678
00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:06,970
and when you do that you begin to get

679
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:11,350
sort of a playing field if that's if

680
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:14,710
that's a term meaning it's kind of a

681
00:36:22,170 --> 00:36:18,610
bell-shaped curve of experiences and in

682
00:36:26,220 --> 00:36:22,180
that you begin to as soon as somebody

683
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,230
says a particular color a ball of light

684
00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:28,480
whatever it is you then have all this

685
00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:31,180
background in your own experience that

686
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:34,120
you now are going to ask questions to

687
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:37,090
see not to lead but just to see if

688
00:36:43,770 --> 00:36:39,130
anything more comes out that's on this

689
00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:43,780
big playing field or a profile of what

690
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:49,030
others have experienced right and when

691
00:36:57,390 --> 00:36:53,140
you step back from this and you see that

692
00:37:00,930 --> 00:36:57,400
even now about 36 hours from the coast

693
00:37:03,290 --> 00:37:00,940
broadcast and less than 24 hours from

694
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:03,300
the dreamland broadcast

695
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:08,160
that I have over 100 I'm not talking

696
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:10,880
subsonic emails these are intelligent

697
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:14,610
well-written people who are from all

698
00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:18,810
over the place geographically who have

699
00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:23,070
been provoked to now tell something that

700
00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:26,190
they've never shared with another human

701
00:37:30,530 --> 00:37:26,820
being

702
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:30,540
Wow now take this and let's go a month

703
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:35,310
forward to Bastrop outside of Austin

704
00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:38,040
Texas and there is going to be this

705
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:42,470
gathering for the secret space program

706
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:47,690
2015 and that I'm going to be taking

707
00:37:55,070 --> 00:37:52,320
from all of this river of communication

708
00:37:57,550 --> 00:37:55,080
that comes to me on a regular basis that

709
00:38:00,530 --> 00:37:57,560
includes people who have been I think

710
00:38:07,820 --> 00:38:00,540
legitimate whistleblowers and that I

711
00:38:12,110 --> 00:38:07,830
have sort of a it's a it's like I'm

712
00:38:15,050 --> 00:38:12,120
going to try to present what would be

713
00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:15,060
common denominators that have come from

714
00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:18,740
whistleblowers that all add up to self

715
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:21,980
activating software in self activating

716
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:26,700
machines interacting on this planet for

717
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:30,890
a very long time and here is the kicker

718
00:38:39,350 --> 00:38:36,720
those self activating technologies with

719
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:39,360
complex self activating software that

720
00:38:47,780 --> 00:38:44,090
needs no other mind organic mind

721
00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:47,790
presence for it to operate at every

722
00:38:57,350 --> 00:38:52,740
level including repairing itself the

723
00:39:00,130 --> 00:38:57,360
prime intelligence that has made all of

724
00:39:04,070 --> 00:39:00,140
this self activating technology

725
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:04,080
including androids could be literally on

726
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:06,900
the other side of this universe that's

727
00:39:17,070 --> 00:39:14,880
that's a pretty my employing possibility

728
00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:17,080
now when I heard you talking about this

729
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:19,270
Chicago masseuse case you mentioned the

730
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:21,070
person's cell phone making a strange

731
00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:22,930
noise it seemed like it played a role

732
00:39:27,570 --> 00:39:25,840
perhaps maybe it was a catalyst for what

733
00:39:29,130 --> 00:39:27,580
was going on and I wondered if this is

734
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:29,140
something you see in other cases some

735
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,270
kind of sound or frequency technology

736
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:33,520
allowing these beans to phase in and out

737
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:36,550
perhaps thank you for bringing it up

738
00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:39,040
because the whole issue of frequency

739
00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:42,190
seems to be key to all of the phenomena

740
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:46,900
and that frequencies in this case it was

741
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:51,250
the cell phone that the very

742
00:40:00,330 --> 00:39:54,940
well-dressed expensive looking woman had

743
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:00,340
a large and expensive handbag and the

744
00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:02,890
massage therapist Cindy sylph

745
00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:06,060
she allowed me to use her real name

746
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:10,060
Cindy shelf said it was always standard

747
00:40:19,530 --> 00:40:13,770
operation you asked anybody male female

748
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:19,540
please shut off don't put it on pause or

749
00:40:27,870 --> 00:40:23,410
quiet shut off your cell phone so they

750
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:27,880
cannot go off during the massage and she

751
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:30,250
watched and she said this in my

752
00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:33,490
interview I watched her Linda she not

753
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:40,030
she she went off off off she clicked the

754
00:40:48,690 --> 00:40:45,430
button three times off off up put the

755
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:48,700
cell phone back in her expensive handbag

756
00:40:56,270 --> 00:40:52,960
and then the massage began normal

757
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:56,280
routine absolutely nothing unusual and

758
00:41:00,750 --> 00:40:58,810
here is another part of this that I

759
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:00,760
think is very significant because this

760
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:02,290
also comes up in the human abduction

761
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:04,530
syndrome

762
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:10,000
Cindy shelf says that her mind began

763
00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:15,210
drifting into thoughts and images of

764
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:19,720
gray aliens and finds her own mental

765
00:41:26,279 --> 00:41:23,200
processes wondering why am I thinking

766
00:41:28,769 --> 00:41:26,289
about grey aliens

767
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:28,779
and then all of this happened very

768
00:41:37,259 --> 00:41:33,209
suddenly all it within seconds that

769
00:41:40,919 --> 00:41:37,269
washed when she says why am I thinking

770
00:41:46,709 --> 00:41:40,929
and then she's looking at the body of

771
00:41:53,549 --> 00:41:46,719
the woman are you an alien immediately

772
00:41:56,189 --> 00:41:53,559
all of this the she sees the and drew I

773
00:42:00,719 --> 00:41:56,199
think her illustration is just excellent

774
00:42:04,529 --> 00:42:00,729
at earthfiles calm she said at first it

775
00:42:08,549 --> 00:42:04,539
was it's if the sheet over the woman's

776
00:42:11,699 --> 00:42:08,559
body transformed very quickly with

777
00:42:15,089 --> 00:42:11,709
zigzag lines that she drew and then when

778
00:42:17,429 --> 00:42:15,099
I said do you mean like electrostatic

779
00:42:21,469 --> 00:42:17,439
energy she said Linda that's that's it

780
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:21,479
like electrostatic energy and that

781
00:42:30,779 --> 00:42:27,689
becoming becoming visible in the zigzag

782
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:30,789
electrostatic energy is the form of the

783
00:42:37,169 --> 00:42:33,729
gray so that there was a rapid

784
00:42:41,059 --> 00:42:37,179
transition in which the sheet itself

785
00:42:44,839 --> 00:42:41,069
over the woman seemed to be at the first

786
00:42:48,179 --> 00:42:44,849
what do we call it the first level that

787
00:42:52,890 --> 00:42:48,189
Cindy could see of this change which was

788
00:42:56,130 --> 00:42:52,900
rapidly transforming into the gray to

789
00:43:01,140 --> 00:42:56,140
the exclusion when this transition was

790
00:43:06,449 --> 00:43:01,150
over in a matter of a second the female

791
00:43:08,999 --> 00:43:06,459
woman can no longer be seen the it's as

792
00:43:13,069 --> 00:43:09,009
if the female woman now is completely

793
00:43:19,620 --> 00:43:13,079
transformed into that gray and that

794
00:43:23,729 --> 00:43:19,630
Cindy said she now oh my god it is an

795
00:43:28,349 --> 00:43:23,739
alien she came that sound that she tried

796
00:43:30,179 --> 00:43:28,359
to mimic and her words were different

797
00:43:35,069 --> 00:43:30,189
than what she was able to utter as a

798
00:43:38,339 --> 00:43:35,079
human that it was metallic she compared

799
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:38,349
it to the trumpet sounds that people

800
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:39,490
have recorded

801
00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:43,810
on the planet since 2011 and they don't

802
00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:45,640
know what those trumpet sounds are but

803
00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:48,340
it's metallic but more of a metallic

804
00:43:54,030 --> 00:43:52,150
scraping sound with air in it that's how

805
00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:54,040
she tried to describe what she heard

806
00:43:59,220 --> 00:43:57,160
that chief estimated that it must have

807
00:44:06,500 --> 00:43:59,230
sound it must have been there for three

808
00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:06,510
seconds and then the woman is back and

809
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:11,400
Cindy is saying and the woman is saying

810
00:44:15,740 --> 00:44:14,800
almost simultaneously I thought I shut

811
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:15,750
it off

812
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:23,020
so now is it that the alien presence can

813
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:25,930
use cellphones for anything that they

814
00:44:33,870 --> 00:44:31,450
want meaning we have a digital we have a

815
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:33,880
digital technology that is now is

816
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,850
networking the whole planet may be

817
00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:39,040
inspired by nonhumans because they

818
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:40,950
wanted to step occur

819
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:44,650
everybody's got now these three by five

820
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:47,380
or four by six they're growing maybe

821
00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:53,440
behind by seven iPhones that the alien

822
00:44:58,410 --> 00:44:56,080
presence can interact with humans now

823
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:58,420
much eat more easily that's a

824
00:45:00,600 --> 00:44:59,920
possibility a lot of people have

825
00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:00,610
questioned that

826
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:06,030
and that they the frequency with which

827
00:45:14,370 --> 00:45:10,300
the nonhumans do anything that we don't

828
00:45:19,460 --> 00:45:14,380
understand that whatever occurred in

829
00:45:25,380 --> 00:45:19,470
that cellphone as Cindy said it was like

830
00:45:28,770 --> 00:45:25,390
watching Oh get back in your she said

831
00:45:31,230 --> 00:45:28,780
get back into your cage that and then I

832
00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:31,240
said what is it that you saw and she

833
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:33,460
said well very rapidly it reminded me of

834
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:35,710
something like molecules coming back

835
00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:38,770
together like oh get back into your

836
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:42,280
shape and then the woman was there and

837
00:45:51,250 --> 00:45:47,400
so the only thing that you can say

838
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:51,260
caused that to happen was the sound

839
00:45:59,950 --> 00:45:56,330
and why was this freaky sound emanating

840
00:46:02,590 --> 00:45:59,960
from the cellphone only once for three

841
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:02,600
seconds and Cindy said you know if it's

842
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:05,359
a normal phone that goes off you have a

843
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:08,950
ring and then a ring and then a ring and

844
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:13,280
so forth this was just one blast that

845
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:17,170
seemed to bring the grey alien

846
00:46:22,330 --> 00:46:19,250
transition to an end

847
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,340
and the woman was there and just like

848
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:25,280
those cases that I told you about in

849
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:28,390
Boulder in Memphis all right the woman

850
00:46:36,220 --> 00:46:32,930
did not have she didn't even there was

851
00:46:37,930 --> 00:46:36,230
nothing beyond the the sound of her

852
00:46:40,780 --> 00:46:37,940
phone going off and herself I thought I

853
00:46:43,780 --> 00:46:40,790
shut that off the woman would have no

854
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:43,790
awareness of what it was that Cindy

855
00:46:50,410 --> 00:46:47,090
shelf saw happened and Cindy's shelf

856
00:46:53,470 --> 00:46:50,420
like the other two said literally

857
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:53,480
nothing to the woman nothing about what

858
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:56,330
just happened did you know that I gray

859
00:47:02,349 --> 00:46:59,090
being just nothing so you have a

860
00:47:05,410 --> 00:47:02,359
disconnect that the humans who observe

861
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:05,420
this in other humans are so shocked are

862
00:47:09,609 --> 00:47:06,800
so stunned

863
00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:09,619
they can't have dialogue with the person

864
00:47:14,980 --> 00:47:11,720
that they saw just transition from a

865
00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:14,990
grey what would happen in those moments

866
00:47:20,740 --> 00:47:17,990
if humans did say do you know that I

867
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:20,750
just saw you turn into a grey being what

868
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:24,050
happened what what would the response be

869
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:28,810
my guess is there is no consciousness

870
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:32,690
that it is not like david huggins

871
00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:35,930
knowing that he saw a transition into a

872
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:39,800
ball of light entering that humans are

873
00:47:48,070 --> 00:47:45,490
not aware that in the 7.2 billion now

874
00:47:50,290 --> 00:47:48,080
living it's affected I think the new

875
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:50,300
number is seven point six billion keeps

876
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:52,850
going up exponentially all the time the

877
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:56,330
population on earth that they're

878
00:48:03,340 --> 00:47:59,119
probably there might be hundreds of

879
00:48:05,180 --> 00:48:03,350
thousands of people who have some will

880
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:05,190
call it technological relation

881
00:48:10,730 --> 00:48:07,890
ship in which greys are seeing the world

882
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:10,740
and feeling emotions and doing all of us

883
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,119
through humans and they haven't got a

884
00:48:17,420 --> 00:48:14,160
clue mm-hmm

885
00:48:20,740 --> 00:48:17,430
back to Cindy's question to me and to

886
00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:20,750
what least question what does this mean

887
00:48:28,930 --> 00:48:26,789
what are all of these learning episodes

888
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:28,940
if you put it that way

889
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:33,510
being able to be students of Earth by

890
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:36,319
somehow technologically

891
00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:39,839
putting consciousness of the greys

892
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:42,599
inside of human consciousness for some

893
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:43,770
period of time

894
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:47,609
what is that evolving toward right

895
00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:49,530
that's a lot of trouble and effort just

896
00:48:54,049 --> 00:48:51,990
to occupy a human body there must be

897
00:48:57,710 --> 00:48:54,059
something else we don't understand

898
00:49:00,260 --> 00:48:57,720
what's the end goal here I do not have

899
00:49:02,839 --> 00:49:00,270
an answer what least Reaper has does not

900
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:02,849
have an answer Jim Marrs does not have

901
00:49:09,020 --> 00:49:05,369
an answer none of us have an answer to

902
00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:09,030
that question and then jump to where the

903
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:11,700
whistleblowers come from the government

904
00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:15,210
and the military you get the impression

905
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:17,579
that these guys have whistle blows they

906
00:49:26,690 --> 00:49:22,440
get they become exposed to some small

907
00:49:28,809 --> 00:49:26,700
piece they either it's because they're

908
00:49:31,819 --> 00:49:28,819
in a military operation and they see

909
00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:31,829
nonhumans not necessarily greys there

910
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:35,190
are other types but they see nonhumans

911
00:49:40,609 --> 00:49:38,430
during a black ops operation they know

912
00:49:43,339 --> 00:49:40,619
that we're working with some kind of

913
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:43,349
nonhumans they know that we have a

914
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:48,210
secret space program we they know that

915
00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:51,599
we are very concerned about some kind of

916
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:54,630
intelligence coming from outside of our

917
00:50:03,650 --> 00:49:59,010
satellites to earth everybody who has

918
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:03,660
tried to investigate a lot into the

919
00:50:09,859 --> 00:50:07,260
extra-terrestrial question you it

920
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:09,869
doesn't take long but you have people

921
00:50:15,890 --> 00:50:13,020
that are frustrated or angry because

922
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:15,900
they do not think it is right that they

923
00:50:20,750 --> 00:50:18,240
know that there are non-human

924
00:50:22,910 --> 00:50:20,760
among us they know that the government

925
00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:22,920
is working with nonhumans and they think

926
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:24,900
that the human family should know that's

927
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:28,170
why their whistle blows well Linda that

928
00:50:31,370 --> 00:50:29,520
pretty much brings us to the end of the

929
00:50:33,590 --> 00:50:31,380
show fascinating stuff again Earth

930
00:50:35,150 --> 00:50:33,600
files.com is your website and you're

931
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:35,160
going to be at the secret space program

932
00:50:39,410 --> 00:50:37,110
conference in Austin Texas the weekend

933
00:50:40,940 --> 00:50:39,420
of the 31st of October is there anything

934
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:40,950
else you'd like to tell the listeners

935
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:43,950
before we call it a day I just want them

936
00:50:49,820 --> 00:50:48,000
to know you are an extremely intelligent

937
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:49,830
interviewer and it has been a pleasure

938
00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:52,800
to work with you today thank you so much

939
00:50:56,030 --> 00:50:54,300
that means a lot coming from you in

940
00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:56,040
particular you're one of my favorite

941
00:50:59,810 --> 00:50:57,420
alternative journalists you're always

942
00:51:02,330 --> 00:50:59,820
well researched and you make the most

943
00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:02,340
far-out possibilities seem so plausible

944
00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:03,960
and that's a beautiful thing so thank

945
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:05,640
you so much have a great time in Austin

946
00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:06,930
hopefully we can do this again sometime

947
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:10,080
and just take that word alternative away

948
00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:13,170
I am a mainstream a reporter and always

949
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:15,840
have been fair point fair point I'm

950
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,090
gonna have to retrain myself but thanks

951
00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:20,640
again Linda this has been awesome keep

952
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:22,590
doing what you do and take care thank

953
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:26,610
you whoa guys whoa Linda Moulton Howe

954
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:29,250
let's hear it I'm talking about some

955
00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:30,780
really interesting sagas and

956
00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:32,670
corroborating encounters that might give

957
00:51:37,010 --> 00:51:34,920
us some clues into the larger agenda and

958
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:37,020
I think it does and it's great to hear

959
00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:38,370
about these things in a format that

960
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:40,440
isn't limited by commercial breaks and

961
00:51:44,450 --> 00:51:43,050
egotistical hosts Melinda does not

962
00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:44,460
really need assistance and I thought it

963
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:45,030
was great

964
00:51:49,010 --> 00:51:47,010
I actually tried to chime in even less

965
00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:49,020
than normal because Linda speakers were

966
00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:50,760
a little loud and it was causing some

967
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:52,740
feedback when I would speak I spliced

968
00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:55,200
out as much of it as I could but you did

969
00:51:58,220 --> 00:51:56,790
probably hear a little bit of it and

970
00:52:00,170 --> 00:51:58,230
hopefully we can talk to her again

971
00:52:02,090 --> 00:52:00,180
because I have a lot of questions we

972
00:52:04,940 --> 00:52:02,100
couldn't get into but Linda has no

973
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:04,950
shortage of fascinating material beans

974
00:52:09,590 --> 00:52:07,410
embedded into unknowing human hosts

975
00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:09,600
animal mutilations self-activating

976
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:12,180
extra-terrestrial machinery where we

977
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:12,960
heard that before

978
00:52:16,730 --> 00:52:14,400
sounds a little bit like Hattie Bob's

979
00:52:18,590 --> 00:52:16,740
paradigm to me machines set to autopilot

980
00:52:20,210 --> 00:52:18,600
monitoring the earth and controlling

981
00:52:22,850 --> 00:52:20,220
this terrarium just beyond the

982
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:22,860
electromagnetic spectrum I don't know

983
00:52:26,780 --> 00:52:25,050
but if you did like the first hour you

984
00:52:28,580 --> 00:52:26,790
know we have the extended second hour

985
00:52:30,290 --> 00:52:28,590
with all the great guests here and today

986
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:30,300
is no different with Linda we got into

987
00:52:34,370 --> 00:52:31,890
more ideas of the big agenda

988
00:52:36,350 --> 00:52:34,380
the Prometheus archetype the Randalls

989
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:36,360
from forest incident as an example of

990
00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:38,010
the self activating alien hardware

991
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:40,470
hunting for samples and we speculate on

992
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:43,110
what is it about humans that makes us so

993
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:45,090
special in this scenario it's a

994
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,650
fascinating time with a legendary

995
00:52:50,780 --> 00:52:48,720
researcher and a real milestone for me

996
00:52:52,580 --> 00:52:50,790
and after five years of building up this

997
00:52:54,740 --> 00:52:52,590
show and going for who I think are the

998
00:52:57,050 --> 00:52:54,750
best of the best there's very few people

999
00:52:59,540 --> 00:52:57,060
left to scratch off my shortlist and

1000
00:53:01,640 --> 00:52:59,550
Linda was definitely one of them so big

1001
00:53:03,830 --> 00:53:01,650
thanks to her definitely keep up with

1002
00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:03,840
her detailed and journalistic reporting

1003
00:53:08,030 --> 00:53:06,420
at earthfiles dot-com and if you're in

1004
00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:08,040
the Midwest journey down to the secret

1005
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:09,900
space program conference I went to the

1006
00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:11,970
one last year in California had a great

1007
00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:14,070
time and I'm sure Austin's gonna be a

1008
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:17,990
blast to use that coupon code ssp THC

1009
00:53:23,660 --> 00:53:20,610
2015 if you plan to go and get yourself

1010
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:23,670
some cheaper tickets you are welcome and

1011
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:25,290
I guess that's it for your favorite show

1012
00:53:30,260 --> 00:53:27,810
and your humble host here I will see you

1013
00:53:35,210 --> 00:53:30,270
next time but until then your move

1014
00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:35,220
previous your frickin move no one knows

1015
00:53:45,210 --> 00:53:41,460
what it's like to be the bad man to be

1016
00:53:59,310 --> 00:53:51,220
behind the lights and no one knows what

1017
00:54:08,890 --> 00:53:59,320
it's like to be hated to be fated to

1018
00:54:24,750 --> 00:54:08,900
telling only lies but my dreams aren't

1019
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:39,110
lonely since they exposed me I'm THC

1020
00:54:55,710 --> 00:54:43,980
no one knows what it's like feel these

1021
00:55:01,490 --> 00:54:55,720
feelings like I do and I blame you no

1022
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:01,500
one bites back is hard on their anger

1023
00:55:21,050 --> 00:55:10,290
none of my pain can show through but my

1024
00:55:21,060 --> 00:56:15,460
I always lonely sake exposed me THC

1025
00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:23,790
but my dreams aren't as empty as my

1026
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:33,480
conscience seems to be I have

1027
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:43,520
oh wait only since they exposed me on